evilas
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Slowking wrote:
Credit warp from graveyard: https://youtu.be/wX-QfHP5LfY Still needs zora mask but gets it via SRM from the grave. Could maybe be faster than moon warp?
Nice! I hope so but I'm not too optimistic unless more improvements are found. It takes 4 minutes from the Graveyard, and getting bombs and getting to the graveyard sounds like it would take more than 2 minutes. I think it would be close, though, and with more improvements it could be faster.
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I mean TAS wouldn't need 4 minutes for this. This was a demonstration with gameplay that wasn't optimised in any way. But even then. The RTA world record takes 6 minutes after buying bombs to get to the credits. So that's 2 minutes left to get the graveyard, which should be doable. Of course I don't think anybody should TAS this yet. I'm still hoping for a credits warp from Observatory/bombers hideout. There is also a small chance that TAS could use a deku bubble instead of zora fins, skipping the zora mask alltogether. (unlike zora fins there is a bunch of RNG involved in Deku bubbles, but TAS could potentially manipulate it) Also I always wondered if there might be a function that determines which cutscenes to play at the end, depending on what items you have in your inventory, and if you could hijack that easier than the current methods. But I guess if there was such a thing, the guys would have found it by now. Makes me wonder how the game actually checks for that. Or if there is such a function and it's just useless.
evilas
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Link to video Well how about that! Probably more setups to come!
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I eagerly wait for something to be doable in the first cycle.
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Find us a clip into Kafei's hideout. You have to become human because deku is useless af.
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I don't see any kind of ACE ever being possible in the first cycle.
evilas
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honestly before even being able to do ACE we need to do SRM somehow, and I don't think anyone has any idea how that would even happen
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i think slowking has it covered, we just need to become human in some other way... like beating a temple or getting into kafei's hideout, that or coming up with some other srm method that doesnt involve grabbing objects
TAS i'm interested: Megaman series, specially the RPGs! Where is the mmbn1 all chips TAS we deserve? Where is the Command Mission TAS? i'm slowly moving away from TASing fighting games for speed, maybe it's time to start finding some entertainment value in TASing.
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Interestingly, total control might be slightly faster for a TAS to use in any% than the sot-method. It certainly would be a lot faster when timed with TAS-timing, as you could jump to later in the credits where there aren't any more inputs required. Also using Link's facing angle instead of zora fins does look promising. So we might see that in the near future. Exciting times. Now we just need somebody to find a clip into Kafei's hideout. :D
evilas
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Link to video and here's the LOTAD for the finless route!
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TAS should really use total control ACE in the observatory to warp to a later part of the credits. But not sure if anybody is planing to mae a TAS at the moment.
Post subject: MM 100% with ACE TAS
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SeedBorn released a TAS of 100% from source requirement, with ACE, rendering the distinction that they're acquired from source a little pointless. It's a lightning-quick world tour through the game. The action starts 25 minutes in and is over about 11 minutes later: Link to video There's a version with commentary from ZFG and SeedBorn on ZFG's twitch that will be uploaded to youtube shortly: link.
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watched and enjoyed, really nice!
TAS i'm interested: Megaman series, specially the RPGs! Where is the mmbn1 all chips TAS we deserve? Where is the Command Mission TAS? i'm slowly moving away from TASing fighting games for speed, maybe it's time to start finding some entertainment value in TASing.
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Human in first cycle Höööype! Link to video
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Holy shit, I didn't expect myself to live long enough to still witness first cycle human. I love it. And it's insane, how technical glitch hunting has become. There are certainly scientific fields around whose research is not as deep as MM and Oot :D