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The game sounds and looks awesome, but gameplay gets old after a few minutes, and there's little to no variety after that. Voted No.
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Would require disasm to know for sure but it's a known "feature": https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/intellivision/576720-advanced-dungeons-and-dragons/cheats
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Wait a minute. Which major skip glitch does this movie avoid? EDIT: This seems to be The Corner Skip but there's still a question about its optimality when it comes to "all tools". If "all tools" is faster with the major skip glitch, then it should be used in a Vault movie.
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local List = {} List[0] = "BEN" List[1] = "DEAN" List[2] = "JOHN" List[3] = "SAM" a = memory.read_u8(КАКОЙ АДРЕС-ТО???) gui.text(10, 15, List[a])
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I'm glad to welcome our newest judge, CasualPokePlayer!
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Chanoyu wrote:
Will people make 20-30 TASes of the same game though; for how many games is that really a danger?
Hard to tell. If a game offers enough difference for 30 branches, I wouldn't mind. People feeling passionate about TASing something is an important factor we've never considered in the past. It needs some care.
Chanoyu wrote:
"Different enough" is indeed tricky to define, but maybe a poll question in the vein of "should this movie be published" can help with some intersubjectivity.
Indeed this is what I suggested here. Though it looks like the system I suggested there is still too complicated. Maybe there shouldn't be a defined list of branches acceptable by default.
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Chanoyu wrote:
I don't think I'd prepare for every eventuality in advance, since I think 'too many branches' is not a problem that will pop up a lot.
Just going through all in-game options in some games would result in 20-30 branches (different combinations of characters, simultaneous player count, difficulty, warp usage, etc.). And the borderline of "different enough" may be tricky to define, for example if there is disagreement on which branches make sense to exist on their own.
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Post subject: Re: Vault Expansion Discussion
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Samsara wrote:
Actually, since we've gotten a pretty overwhelmingly positive reaction to this proposal, maybe we should all start working on hashing out the rules in finer detail. We can either come up with a definite list of categories we want to be objective, or try to come up with a clean definition for "non-objective" categories, whichever one would be more clear and concise in the long run.
Maybe we need to ask this differently.
Question to everyone How would you decide when there's too many branches if you had absolute freedom?
Even with objective branches it often feels like they need to be limited somehow, and even with subjective branches it often feels like some of them need to co-exist.
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WSL2 is a thing in Windows 10 that allows you to run some Linux things. Including libTAS. Though sdl-gnash may not work there.
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CasualPokePlayer wrote:
I did notice one minor thing however. You seem to go to the backpack at the level fadeouts. Sometimes this seems to be for picking an item while the fadeout goes on, but other times it seems to be a case of lag reduction. I've noticed that for the lag reduction (and assuming you aren't picking an item) the Pause menu can be substituted, which could have less lag. However, the gain is very minor and likely outright negated due later lag being thrown off. Not really worthy of rejection, but perhaps something to keep an eye on in case you want to squeeze just a little more timesave in.
Nice find! But yeah it'd require going through the entire movie again, so it can wait for a new iteration indeed.
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ikuyo wrote:
For a PC game, can a settings file be provided for an option that is permanently set on first startup, not modifiable from within the game, and not tied to save data? Iconoclasts has a flag in its data directory called settings, which contains a flag to know if this is the first time you've opened the game. This is used to allow players to skip an intro cutscene before the title screen that is unskippable otherwise, guaranteeing that the player will see it during their first time booting the game. Once the player has selected New Game, and enters a game, this flag is permanently set. Since iconoclasts uses manual saving otherwise, you don't need to save your new game at all (you can essentially close the game right away and generate no save data while still keeping the first_time flag).
No tampering with the files the game is composed of wrote:
Some systems, such as DOS, expose separate parts of the operating system and/or the game to the user. You are not allowed to manipulate these files except as is normally necessary to play the game, such as "installing" it. [...] That means no renaming/copying/deleting/replacing/editing files that affect gameplay. However, editing environment settings or utilizing standard third-party tools in order to get a game to load is allowed as long as the game runs as it's supposed to.
We allow applying cosmetic tweaks via in-game options in PC games, but otherwise it should look like it's the first time you're launching the game, because:
The movie must play the game from the beginning wrote:
Giving yourself a headstart is not allowed. The game must start from a common starting point, which is the very beginning.
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R30hedron wrote:
1) Would having credits play out like this be a valid speed/entertainment tradeoff? Or would it be best to skip all cutscenes to save the 45 seconds? (I’m not concerned about Moons/Vault tiering, since I’m working off of the assumption that the end TAS will be entertaining enough to warrant a speed/entertainment tradeoff like this, but I’d be fine if that assumption is wrong.)
Speed/entertainment trade-offs aren't banned from Vault (as long as you don't go out of your way too much). I think people usually prefer seeing credits if it's an option. But if you opt to skip them as well as all other cutscenes, the game still reaches the proper ending, so it's not a problem.
R30hedron wrote:
2) What would count as the final input for TAS timing for a Fresh File TAS? The moment we kill the King? or do we default to entering the fountain as the final input as we would for an RTA run? Can we count the movement after the credits as “post-completion input”? The relevant portion of the rules suggests that “Extra input does not change the resulting ending”, which is true, but it also suggests that “Extra input is trivial to execute for anyone replaying the movie”. Is holding B to leave the credits, holding right, pressing A once, and pressing R1 to enter the fountain sufficiently trivial?
Doing stuff after credits is indeed post-completion input. The rule says "We always prefer full movies" so it won't be counted against your record in any situation. I personally think completeness and less hassle is better than aiming for digits for the sake of it, especially when the actual ending doesn't happen sooner to reflect those digits.
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I made an encode without cutscenes (using WRAM address 0x12f9). Please verify that I didn't screw it up. Link to video
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Can you jump to the second floor directly here, like the nicovideo TAS does it?
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Post subject: Re: Vault Expansion Discussion
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Samsara wrote:
How do we look at games more objectively, then? This is something that's going to take some community discussion to really iron out, but we've started coming up with a potential new system that should greatly expand Vault in a satisfying way, allowing for more runs to be accepted without opening the doors wide enough to accept absolutely everything: Instead of strictly only allowing fastest and full completions in Vault, we would allow any objective goal for a game. By objective goal, we mean "something that is defined or limited by the game itself". Here are some big examples, but definitely not EVERY example:
  • Pure fastest completion (GEG, ACE, etc)
  • Warps (or fastest "intended" completion)
  • Warpless/All levels (warps are an intended shortcut so not using them counts as an objective goal)
  • 100% (assuming it can be defined objectively)
  • Score attack (an objective goal with room for improvement in the same vein as fastest completion)
And here's a list of smaller things that are more dependent on the game, but still objective:
  • Gameplay modes (including things like New Game +)
  • Number of players
  • Character choices
  • In-game defined goals (i.e, achievements, things that reward the player with content)
How would we handle usage versus avoidance of major skip glitch? Avoiding it is not an in-game option, yet it feels natural to allow it. And some major skip glitches wouldn't fit Moons if we consider them non-objective goals. Years ago I've had an idea of just keeping all MSGs in the Demo tier. Since they are very obviously some kind of tech porn that takes an expert to create and understand its value.
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Post subject: Re: TASSS - Tool-Assisted Speedrunning and Superplay Science
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MESHUGGAH wrote:
- Tool-assisted speedrunning covers many scientific topics as well as an ever increasing materials that can not be fit inside the tasvideos Wiki.
You can still put them on wiki in your personal subpages. If it ends up getting organized well, we could even move it toplevel.
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slamo wrote:
I think the platform for this game should be Windows. While this version of ScummVM runs under Linux, it's just a replacement for the SCUMM engine and should be treated like any emulator: if the game runs authentically with the original Windows game data files, then it should be considered acceptable and should be classified as a game under the original platform. This game also never had an official Linux release, so that might be confusing to viewers looking for this game.
I agree that since it's not a Linux game, but an extra layer that makes this game run on Linux, it shouldn't be labeled as a Linux game. Since ScummVM is not a rerecording framework either, I wouldn't want it to become an entirely new system at tasvideos like DOOM became, alongside NES, DOS, Windows, and others. Yet since ScummVM introduces some unofficial tweaks to the game, we can't leave it out entirely. Probably the best option is to put it into the game version field. If the original version gets TASed via Wine or PCem, we'll just drop ScummVM from the version. As a result, I think this movie should be called Windows Backyard Baseball (ScummVM) "6 Inning Pick Up Game" in 04:45.05 by TiKevin83.
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Post subject: Re: Wading in blind
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dwangoAC wrote:
- I like having a system where anyone can upload anything in any category for any game similar to speedrun.com. I'd obviously prefer a few changes compared to how speedrun.com handles things
What would you change?
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Post subject: libTAS 1.4.2 has been released!
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libTAS 1.4.2 has been released! Lua support was added, and input editor was improved. See the full changelog.
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arkiandruski wrote:
I think the plan is to use new names.
Records and Art?
arkiandruski wrote:
I just had a thought. Maybe the "external goals" tier should be judged not necessarily on entertainment so much as whether it provides an interesting experience distinct from the standard branches. I think anything that associates it with the "entertaining tier" goes against the goal of this proposed change.
Yeah there could be many meanings behind "this make sense, I want it to be published", and ideally, we'd list whatever makes sense for us as a community in guidelines for those "not-Moons-anymore".
CoolHandMike wrote:
What exactly does the term Demonstration mean in this context anyway? To me the term demo kind of imparts a meaning of something shown as a proof of concept that may not necessarily be the full featured product. Would a demo have to be a full complete playthrough? Would it even have to be optimized?
The current meaning is "a movie class for goals not represented in any movie classes". http://tasvideos.org/MovieClassGuidelines.html#Demonstration As for rules for a potential new Demo category, the thing I've noticed over the years is we as a community were unable to agree on any rules for it.
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I tried it a few years ago and indeed it's a fever dream. Wii's FlashPlayer is very old, screen resolution is fixed, and you can't load files from local storage, only from online. Which means you start depending on something completely unpredictable. We have a thread about Flash in Gnash in libTAS, and it worked fine in Bionic. Newer Ubuntu breaks deps, but you shouldn't have problems installing older releases. FlashPlayer support in libTAS is also being worked on.
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TiKevin83 wrote:
I think this majorly improves some pain points around pretentiousness of the tiers and over-focus on entertainment/audience feedback in the initial response to new submissions for established speedrun categories. It still fails to elegantly handle games with lots of different game end glitch/ACE entry points, where game researchers tend to enjoy optimizing and looking for all these different attack vectors to exploit a game but none of them qualify for publication. I could run through all the examples for Pokemon but one that wouldn't fit in the current description is unintended warps vs ace, eg Legend of Zelda "defeat Ganon" vs "SRM" game end glitch. The way the big examples are described right now leaves out that big chunk of glitched but no ACE type movies which I imagine are intended to still be an allowable category, but I would really like some way also to appreciate movies when there are vastly different glitches from a technical perspective that all satisfy the same branch rules like ACE or no ACE/unintended warps.
feos wrote:
  1. Turn Moons into a flag. Assign it to all external goals/player imposed restrictions/concepts that don't explicitly and officially exist in the game. Require them to meet acceptability reasons based on entertainment. As long as a side goal branch meets them, accept. Obsolete a different branch if needed.
    • If we're not sure whether we want it or not, reject.
    • If it contradicts some guidelines but we agree that we need it to be an exception because it's so impressive, accept. Probably that's when the Demo flag should come in.
It still fails to elegantly handle games with lots of different game end glitch/ACE entry points, where game researchers tend to enjoy optimizing and looking for all these different attack vectors to exploit a game but none of them qualify for publication.
It doesn't "fail" at it because brainstorming means people with ideas on how to fix something gracefully, should share those ideas even if they sound stupid or opportunistic. If you have some neat solution in mind on how we can accept what is worth accepting ("makes sense", which will probably be our main phrase with this new system), while also resisting against things that are not worth accepting ("doesn't make sense"), please post it!
Samsara wrote:
I do feel there's another discussion to be had about expanding the site in some other way to give more attention to these kinds of TASes without publication, some sort of ascended Userfiles system maybe
Agreed.
InputEvelution wrote:
Doesn't making Moons a category for "the good movies" only continue the problem of Vault being perceived as a bad classification, which is part of what the proposed changes are trying to deal with?
Please see Post #507085.
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Thanks! I'll uncancel it once a movie with annotations is provided.
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Pokota wrote:
Would movies in the Gruefood Delight be re-evaluated if and when the changes are implemented?
Unrejections always happen when the rules significantly change.
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