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hegyak wrote:
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Scepheo: Ok, I'm convinced.
Can I get clarification feos?
I'm convinced by Scepheo's arguments, that it can be allowed, as long as it's transparent and fairly used. Not that this agreement has any official status though.
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Dooty wrote:
So, every known time saver, and faster strategies, are already used in this run.
Thanks, enough for me :)
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adelikat wrote:
Nothing pre-publication is viable for determining a consensus. Post-publication I see 3 people that think this is not any% or at least unsure. And 2 people who think it is.
Myself, jlun2, scahfy and Nach agree with the ending point's validity. You and Moth don't. Moth is also letting the people decide. I don't know where you got your numbers from.
I can agree though, that it was a mistake to not raise the exact question about this run completing the any% goal before publication. It just seemed quite clear to me (it still is), and no one saw an issue.
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I've heard that there are still plenty of timesavers that are known, but this run doesn't implement them. Elaborate please.
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We need Feos to encode it so that he can encode it with a better sound plugin. He knows how to do it.
You can make a temp encode with regular sound.
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adelikat wrote:
This was advertised as a max score run.
How does it disprove my previous post?
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adelikat wrote:
The run is a max score run, and judged and critiqued as such. Nobody was asked whether this run was a valid any% run, you made up the consensus here.
The submission addresses this, and no one objected the ending point chosen the author.
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What happened to this submission?
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There's a little problem with cheats. It's possible to patch some bytes that would affect gameplay in a subtle way, leading to unfair advantages. We all know what corrupted SRAM can do.
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We don't define and ending at 999999. It's just the only place where the game acts like it ended (similarly to as you die). Kill screen or how that stuff is called. And I don't see anyone questioning the validity of this ending before it was published.
"Must be clearly definable as having completed the game", as a rule, may appear to be hard for some Atari games, in such cases we once again can rely on the majority. Some people consider it clear, some don't. If most of them do, I'd agree with them.
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The old movie was there too, but this is probably an improvement on the entertainment side too. The comments here are quite good. Mooning it...
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grassini wrote:
encode?
Anyone?
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Woops.
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Woops.
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Any plans on further improvement tests?
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Ok. So should it be vaulted back, with no branch?
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Mothrayas wrote:
Vault branch names certainly exist, such as "100% completion", a completely vaultable goal, or such as the examples you list below. Contradiction?
And we very definitely have non-vault branch names, such as...just about any run with a branch that has goals that disqualify it for vault.
It's not about branch names, but about what is actually going on. Newgame+ runs are disqualified not by branch name, but by the goal. Then, this run's goal is not maximum score itself, it just appears to reach some kind of an end when the max score is reached (= Bishi Bashi Special), the actual goal still being "fastest game completion". And the branch is put only for the sake of information. Probably it's not needed, but I don't see a problem with having it.
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Mothrayas wrote:
I find it somewhat dubious. The little "copyright" blurb seems more like an easter egg if anything, and the game itself doesn't look like it ends.
"Seems like" isn't an argument. If there's a closer completion point, it must obsolete that run. If not, this one is the fastest, hence vaultable.
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Either way, even if this would be considered a vaultable ending, it's still wrong to publish it with a non-vault branch name. At best, it's misleading about what branches are accepted in Vault and what not.
We don't have a vault branch name, neither do we have a non-vault one, since "fastest possible" is not marked by having no branch. I can't search through the Vault movies, since the page is broken, but there definitely are runs with labels that indicate that the run does something specific, like "first enemy wave", or something of that fashion. Those runs have labels just to tell that it's not a traditional completion that would work for other games. Anyways, "game end/warp glitch" runs are still vaultable, despite of having a branch.
Mothrayas wrote:
Vault accepts fastest runs of alternate game modes.
for games with separate, independent level sets (modes, episodes) officially available from start, each level set can have its TAS in Vault.
In BB2, the Slash mode is unlockable from the start.
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If something is otherwise unlockable, the cheat code doesn't simplify the action, or even increases the difficulty, surely that cheat code can be used. Yes, I didn't read the thread.
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What exactly are you saying? I'm saying that some games have a max score goalset that is still vaultable.
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